The minors in question (age 18) were with me at the store and in the liquor section and exchanged cash with me, but I paid with my personal debit card (~$40 worth of alcohol). Go to Netherlands. Never had a problem. But I'm just a lowely employee. Zero Tolerance. If it were just about preventing 18 year olds from buying alcohol for 17 year olds, they could just ban sales to them. Then you would get an MIP for having the alcohol. Teenagers are far too prone to drink and drive, or have unprotected sex while drinking. Depending on your local laws conspiracy can carry a punishment just as harsh as committing the crime. If you have issues with federal law, this isn't the sub for you. I am 21, my girlfriend is 20. And I feel like I owe the universe something for all the smokes people bought me when I was a minor. First things first, buy a pre-paid phone so you and your friends have the number. Welcome to /r/Netherlands! Only English should be used for posts and comments. You can even go further with that. But now this is fined, 3000€. So apparently when selling alcohol to a group of ppl who appear under 25, I only need to "ID the person buying the alcohol, unless I've explicitly heard them talking abt buying it together. 3. Asking Multiple People for ID When Buying Alcohol. Back in August, I (F20) was fired from my job and given a citation after I sold beer to an 18-year old. • 8 mo. 16 - 17 you can drink alcohol in a pub, as long as its with a meal and you didn't buy it. Not just at the moment they tried to buy it. From the age of 5 - 16 you can legally drink alcohol at home. By attempting to buy alcohol, knowing he's underage and knowing it's illegal for him to buy it, he commits a crime and the law can punish him. It's a little more restricted at bars in South Dakota or Louisiana. If he does, what would be their consequences? No you can’t buy alcohol for someone over 18 but under 21. In the more lenient states, selling to an underage person means 2-10k in fines for the cashier and/or the store, possibly a loss of their liquor license/ability to sell alcohol at all. In Europe its legal to drink at that age. Only the sale of alcohol to minors or giving alcohol to minors in public places is illegal, so them drinking should not get you in legal trouble. Been buying booze since I was 15, have only bought for minors that were 17 (drinking age here in Sweden is 18, but you need to be 20 to buy in the government owned stores). However, if they got in trouble for selling alcohol to an agent from the ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control), they are on the cusp of losing their license. . MustachelessCat. Most shops simply assume that you dont lie about your age, cause this might be a crime depending on where you are. That's not just Walmarts policy, it's federal law. But many places enforce "minor in possession" against 18-21 year olds even if under 18s aren't present. I don’t buy alcohol for minors but I used to buy cigs for my friends when I was in the military and could buy tobacco/nicotine at 18. Typical penalties are outlined below. One of the worst feelings that has made me realize I have a problem is feeling ashamed and judged when buying alcohol seriously, everyone must know I have a problem, I feel like a FREAK buying alcohol. As a customer assistant in a supermarket, we have to STRICTLY abide by challenge25 (you could well be in your 30s, but if you look 25 we HAVE to check your id). I used to buy alcohol for my friends when we were underage by totaling up the amount, including tax, and bring the booze up to counter so they could clearly see what it was, and throwing the money on the counter and walking out. 46M subscribers in the AskReddit community. A minor drunk driving incident will shut down/fine a bar pretty damn quick. 18 you can do what you like, including buying alcohol for minors providing its in a pub or at home. 1. Hypothetically if I were to walk into a liquor store Drugs are way easier to obtain than alcohol for minors. You can’t legally commit crimes. Bob then goes and give the alcohol to the minor, who ends up with alcohol poisoning. If the customer was part of the group then they could face jail time for allowing minors to possess and buy alcohol. I’m asking about carding the purchaser of alcohol and also the people with the purchaser. I can not sell to any adult who I suspect is buying for a minor (secondary supply). Underage drinking is still the norm these days, but it’s almost always supplied by a person of legal drinking age as the laws surrounding service to minors have tightened up immensely, the establishment and the person that served the alcohol face massive fines and loss of liquor licenses. All of this applies to your entire shift with said customer. In my state, a minor can consume alcohol in the immediate presence of an adult parent or guardian. Jun 25, 2023 · Yet, there’s a hidden enemy at play, weaving its destructive web—illicit alcohol and drugs. It is good practise to always have an ID if there's a chance you're buying age restricted goods. If anyone chooses to drink vanilla extract or cooking wine, they are desperate. The maximum penalties are fines of between $500 and $1000, and six months in jail. Just keep walking to the car no matter what they say. Of course your brother can get in trouble as well. The law considers mere possession as a violation, highlighting the severity of the legal consequences. So, make sure you physically scan with your eyes, and handheld EVERY license. Only ID the person buying. we get fined instantly and could get our license to sell alcohol removed if we don't adhere to this and end up selling alcohol to a minor. Usually yes, especially if it is clearly parent and child. $700 fine, and any community service is assigned. Mother locked the booze cabinet. There are several more problems that can occur from alcohol poisoning and excessive drinking, but these are the two most prominent in the growing person and their future. I used the classic Take the side of the cabinet off, pour a portion of the liquor into several different water bottles and put the liquor back trick. You can get into legal trouble by giving alcohol to a minor, and saying that Doordash suggested you do so will be no defense. Some states hold the adult in a group responsible for minors and if an adult allowed a minor to possess or buy alcohol then they face jail time. They can better advise you than strangers on the internet. AND. For context, I had turned in my two weeks notice a week prior and was mentally/emotionally drained from my job (which isn't an excuse) but I think my state of mind was definitely a factor in why I Target doesn’t serve alcohol so the laws for on-premises sales aren’t relevant (and are a separate link) The link is 100% accurate. I'd buy a minor cigarettes, but not alcohol. You are an adult at 18 even if too young to drink, so yo 18-Baby. howismyspelling. In any case, if you have been charged with a crime (as in, you have been arrested and arraigned) you should have a defense attorney. Kroger camera footage will be given to Cops to use against you in court. I used to work in alcohol. Common law marriages are also a thing, in some states staying in a residence together is enough to be legally married and emancipated. If the cashier believes you’re buying alcohol for a minor, she may refuse service. [deleted] selling alcohol to minors was a law given to the states to decide on their own and enforced by state legislature. I nearly always go through self-checkout and this is what happens every time I buy beer and it has been decades since I even looked like I was 21. Someone after 2am, fired. We were kids at once and felt curious and mischievous, most of us quit entirely cos it wasn’t our thing anymore Depending on what state you are in, ask your parents. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. Let them know that you and your friends will be calling basically every weekend Oct 25, 2022 · Felonies for supplying minors with alcohol are typically charged when there is some type of accident or injury involved with the use of alcohol or the person supplying the alcohol has been convicted of repeated offenses. The police are allowed to investigate crimes, which would include the crime of being a minor in possession. Stronger alcohol can only be bought from government owned stores and to buy alcohol that is over something like 15 percent you need to be 20. Jail sentences for misdemeanors can range from a few days to one year. An investigation is done and the police find that the cashier who sold the alcohol didn’t ID both people, the cashier can be fined or imprisoned for selling to a minor, and the store loses their liquor license. Most places will use the 35 or younger rule. In Tx, it is legal for minors to consume, as long as they are in the presence of their parents and there is another weird thing if I recall correctly, like they can't be in public. Additionally, an underage spouse can do the same in the presence of their over 21 spouse, for example, when one is 19 and the other is 21. Therefore, most places will choose to do 100% inspection My 90 year old grandma was carded at the restaurant a few months ago. Crypto Minors trying to buy cigarettes is a routine experience. It's 5. Most bars with a doorman will ask for ID regardless. There is no "system" per se in which something would be "flagged" as selling alcohol to a minor. In other states, more than merely asking for ID is required in order to rely on a fake ID as a defense. Bars can lose their license to sell liquor if minors are found on the premises. But you need to have reasonable suspicion. Misdemeanor for selling alcohol to a minor. Selling alcohol to minors to prevent shoplifting. 5% these days, a few years ago it was 4. In the states that publix operates in, you have to be atleast 14 to sell restricted items, or 18 in Tennessee. Obviously, I can purchase alcohol lawfully as a 21 year old, and she cannot as she is 20. Identifying Minors: What they didn't know was that when you try to purchase alcohol from self checkout, it freezes the program so an associate can check an ID (or 5). Strictly speaking, you would have to hear them specifically discussing plans to give the alcohol to the minor, or see the minor walk away from them with the alcohol. 2. Apodacaac. In the less lenient ones, even jail time is a possibility. mum is a police officer and told me about a "test buy" sorta thing where you go into a shop and attempt to buy alcohol, whilst being clearly underage (legal ages is 18 here). The cashier doesn’t ID the other person, just Bob. Getting caught selling to or buying liquor for minors is punishable by jail time or a large fine. It depends on state law and the policy of an individual store. This just happened at a major retail store. For alcohol sales the negative effect were known a little earlier and I think the law to prohibit it for under-16s has been introduced late 19th century, as is the case for the United States, but I think it wasn't until the 21st century that alcohol abuse by minors was known to everyone and that stores (especially in rural areas) would stop Here in Canada, anyone is allowed to come inside the liquor store. Don't count on being able to buy either if you're a minor in the US. Ask away! Business, Economics, and Finance Simple. Just keep an eye out so minors don't give themselves alcohol poisoning. Now if it is a family member, or you're somewhere were the law allows minors to drink, that's different. I am indeed an international student. They exist, and they are nice. In the publix minor regulations document it states the rules regarding alcohol sales. Their ONLY rule, if you’re with someone under 19, they’re not allowed to touch any of the alcohol. ADMIN MOD. Fake ID If you are caught with a fake ID the penalty is a minimum $250 fine and/or 24-32 hours of community service, or a maximum $1,000 fine and/or six months in the county jail, PLUS…a one year suspension of your driver’s license. I would be surprised if he is molesting some kid. The police wouldn't let them see him because he got into trouble and was being charged. So like if an 18 year old comes in with his 22 year old friend the sale can't be completed, but if his friends 30 it doesn't matter, or if you're like In England the laws are absolutely ridiculous. I’ve been in three states (Washington, Tennessee, and Maine) where the clerk asked both me and the person I was with for ID to buy alcohol. r/Netherlands. Buy a big bottle and a small airline size bottle of the same liquor. They are both disgusting tasting from the bottle, and more expensive than other potables. Cooking wines are available for minors, too. You have no legal reason to not sell to them. Of course I can't speak for all states but atleast here in Alabama minors can Yes. 0. The age restrictions on video games are established by the video game industry; they serve more like guidelines, and it provides a way for the industry to regulate itself without making the government get involved and start regulating it. Being with a younger person while you go buy a beer doesn’t mean you’re buying it for them. You can buy alcohol at 18 in my country but I need to check ID if you look under 25. • 8 yr. Minors can't buy alcohol or tobacco products anywhere. A guy who doesn't sell cigarettes to minors normally, is not suddenly going to start simply because an undercover asks for some. I'm very young, 22 but look like a teenager. Dont rag on the elderly because laws exist to to prevent minors buying alcohol or adults buying alcohol for minors. Minors as in under 18 or under 21? I bought for some 19 and 20 year olds a few times and it was fine. My California town often engages in Shoulder Tap operations to bust people for buying booze for minors, and it got me thinking: if I agreed to buy booze for a minor, the kid gave me a twenty, and instead I bought them $20 worth of gummy bears, is that still a crime? On [not] buying alcohol for minors. Reply. Someone who has a minor present who’s clearly not their child, fired. Give said homeless person the phone, tell them there is X amount of minutes on it, and ask them to buy you booze. Identity check when buying alcohol : r/Netherlands. ago. I walk over, and they're obviously miffed, and when I ask to see some ID, they shove nursing badges in-front of my face and from what I gathered - they all stole their mother's nursing uniforms. The age restrictions on tobacco and alcohol are established by the government. A lot of places have rules where if the person buying is over an age like 25 then they can buy alcohol regardless of who theyre with, and also exceptions like if the person underage is their kid. They're pretty tightly controlled. For a country with ridiculously strict laws on alcohol, to say that a child of literally any age can legally drink once with a parent baffles me. bippybup. The legal drinking age in California is 21. therefore there should be no reason not to sell alcohol to minors on a plane. Background: I go to a big university and right in the middle of the university avenue is a corner store that sells alcohol to minors. The laws I allege that are broken are as follows: A) A person may not transport alcohol across state lines. Adults know if they can liquor up a kid and then swear them to secrecy or else, they can get away with horrific sexual abuse. As if buying alcohol for minors is no big deal. So, with Christmas coming up, I asked if she knew what her parents wanted and she told me that they’ve wanted a specific 1L bottle of alcohol and offered to split the cost of it with me. A person under the age of twenty-one years may possess any alcoholic beverage with intent to consume if the alcoholic beverage is given: Back then, yes. Possessing an alcoholic beverage alone can lead to arrest and citation for minors. Generally speaking if a person was under 18, the store could compel, or try to compel, their parents to pay for it. 4. So we're both sitting there, getting our tickets and being informed of what we're being charged with. If you look close in age and near being too young you might have an issue because they think you are ordering for a minor but 9/10 times I imagine you’d be fine. the whole shindig was one police officer, dressed in normal clothes would go in and come back to us with where the alcohol was, i would then go in with another in normal Other than getting a doorman and keeping minors out entirely, y'all are doing about everything you can. Crypto Whatever age we pick, just make it all consistent. Otherwise, when in doubt ask for ID. Buddhit, since I have become of age to legally purchase alcohol, I frequently find myself in an awkward position where my friends who are not of age yet request that I buy alcohol for them. This is probably all too familiar to many of you, but from a personal standpoint it is something I am pretty Furnishing alcohol to someone you know to be under 21 is a first degree misdemeanor crime in Ohio, under Ohio Revised Code Title 43, Section 4301. I was a belligerent fuck, and it was obvious. Business, Economics, and Finance. WannaWaffle. r/Drugs. I suspect you would be charged with 'providing' alcohol to minors, which does not require a purchase. '. I was charged with minor buying alcohol 25658(b), minor in possession (25662(a), and possession of a false ID TL;DR Alcohol has many detrimental effects on the body including liver damage and death, and the inability to remember or form new memories. It’s the servers responsibility to know what date people turn 21 every time they clock in for their shift. 6. Understand the consequences of breaking alcohol laws as a minor. In many jurisdictions, selling or supplying alcohol to a minor is a strict liability offense, meaning that a defendant may not use their genuine mistaken belief that the minor was 21 or older as a defense to the charge. But by buying minors alcohol you will be leading and permitting others to sin. We give them every opportunity to 'get away with it', to be honest. The experience of having a familiar customer is also routine, and the shopkeeper is not going to have some sudden brainstorm and think "Eureka! ULPT: Underage and want to buy booze? Just go to a small liquor store and grab your booze and just put down about double the cost of the items at the cashier and say "no change needed". Hi, posting on an alt acct for obvious reasons. I assume your grammatically inelegant question was meant to be " How do you get alcohol that has a minor ". Doordash did not make you hand them the alcohol. Checking IDs is the most basic part of serving alcohol. This rule is in place to ensure that an ample audience can freely discuss life in the Netherlands under a widely-spoken common tongue. Go to your local impoverished neighborhood and find a homeless person. Doesn't matter whether he successfully buys it or not. Attempting to commit a crime is a crime. 9. And will remain, even if found not guilty. !customer. Especially since they just admitted to you that they knew it was wrong but didn't do Yes. I'm very new to this Reddit and very new to getting help with my alcoholism. 7. Then make believe that the little one is underage. We don't just make judgement calls, we need proof. Crypto I fucked up: bought alcohol for minors. We have a government monopoly on all beverages over a certain percentage (can't remember the limit but somewhere around 4%). If they walked out of the store with visible alcohol in a bag could they be stopped and required to give ID to police if they had not committed any crime? If a 20-year-old has alcohol, they have committed a crime. Eventually he owned up and admitted he was using his older brother's ID. This may vary by state, but in my state (US), minors cannot scan alcohol for sale and have to call someone over who is of legal age Reply reply Top 1% Rank by size Posted by u/Phumblez1203 - No votes and 14 comments If you buy something in the self-checkout lanes that require you to be 21yo, then the checkout will flag the employee overseeing the self-checkout registers to come to you and verify your ID. Here the legal age is 18. A person does not have a legal “right” to buy alcohol, but you have a legal right to refuse service to anyone who cannot produce adequate evidence of their age. It's usually policy at stores to check ID for anyone below 40 or a similar age just to be sure no minor with a precocious appearance buys a pack. rewardiflost. [deleted] • 10 yr. If found guilty, you now have a criminal record. Under 21. If a teenager is with their parent or legal guardian, it's fine, though still follow your better judgment on whether to card the parent (s). I'd suggest against getting involved in the situation. I'm a minor in that I am under the age of twenty one but older than eighteen. Oct 18, 2023 · Strict Liability. You need to do what every college student does, find a store that doesn't care. You are never required to sell or serve alcohol to anyone. Shitty kids will be shitty kids, not much you can do besides what you are doing and making sure none of your patrons are getting over served. There are 2 shop employees, one r/teenagers is the biggest community forum run by teenagers for teenagers. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit is it legal to buy alcohol or smoke/vape products with a minor's card? Like if my dad bought alcohol with my debit card and im under 21 but over 18 for example 46M subscribers in the AskReddit community. $1k is a light punishment for serving underage people. If you accept the money and agree to buy the liquor you could be charged with conspiracy to furnish alcohol to minors. It’s almost always an honest mistake that really shouldn’t carry such a huge punishment. Someone who’s intoxicated, fired. Award. American are weird about alcohol - a 16 year old having a drink is not the end of the world. I'm sorry for doing my job someday you will be grateful if your child or their friends come in attempting to buy underage. I work in an Alabama store and we have 14 year olds make alcohol sales. Anytime I've bought any booze online it always came with instructions someone 21 or older had to sign for it. Yes you would get in trouble. If the person whose ID was used is not present, you should not leave alcohol, even if the person at home is obviously above 21. I'm not sure where you're at but some states don't even allow alcohol to be shipped period. A minor can drink at any age with a parent in a bar in Texas or Wisconsin. prkl12345. You could argue whether or not this is a grave matter and a mortal sin, but it is definitely a sin. Strictly Prohibited. You wouldn’t typically run into a problem, unless the children gave the cashier reason to believe they’d be consuming alcohol themselves. In the end it's up to the cashier because alcohol or tobacco are not necessary they can refuse to sell if they have any suspicion that you'll pass it on to a minor or you are too drunk. While I was paying, they just stood Sorry your feelings were hurt by this! but I'm sure this person didn't mean any harm. It'll give you 15%-18% ABV. Buying alcohol underage is a crime. The store would get fined for selling to a minor. 6M subscribers in the NoStupidQuestions community. don't buy illegal substances for people you don't know Reply reply 420blazer247 Watch the table where people are of age and underage together and if the of-age person gives an underage person liquor, all alcohol is removed from the table, they get their bill, and they’re kicked out. You will get in trouble for it, and rightfully so. Now, two of the guys who bought alcohol for him are afraid he might mention it to the police. You can purchase alcohol in the presence of a minor. : r/Drugs. If a shop or a bar sells alcohol to anyone under 18 the fine is 30000€. I have personally known about it for 4 months, but I’ve heard people saying that they’ve been going for as ling as 7 months. It is not against the law to buy alcohol when someone under the age of 21 is with you. 69. The issue is when the staff member believes you to purchasing on behalf of a minor, so they can refuse if they wish. So I'd give a little back to the community. Or maybe it was just that the parents thing was weird enough. Get caught selling alcohol to: A minor, fired. The main thing I am worried about this whole case is, the liquor store having video cameras and my friend saying my first name. There’s many states which allow for beer and wine to be sold at 16, a few that don’t have a minimum for beer and wine, and a few that don’t even have a minimum for hard liquor. Them drinking could get you in trouble with parents though. Someone who can’t show a valid ID, fired. Crypto While I was being questioned, he was lying through his teeth. Posted by u/The2500 - 1,315 votes and 114 comments That's exactly why a new law from the ministry of the interior and public security (law 21363) was passed on August of this year regulating the sale of alcohol, the requirements to purchase it, the places authorized to sell it and the advertisement of alcoholic beverages. NY State it's perfectly legal for a minor to "possess" alcohol, provided it was given by a legal guardian or authorized school person (like a cooking class). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The reasoning behind this is that the US's liquor laws are VERY strict in most states. • 4 yr. That is insane. After several times we later did the add water to the liquor bottles trick. Yet on a plane a person could purchase alcohol Retail businesses who sell cigarettes/alcohol pay some hefty fines and other penalties like loss of licenses for selling to underage people, and employees can be fired if they do, so they're really careful about checking ID's. Reply reply. Okay now i know. This includes parents buying for kids. We do NOT promote drug use; - Accept, for better and or worse, that licit & illicit drug use is part of our world and choose to work to minimize its harmful effects rather than simply ignore or condemn them; - Utilize evidence-based, feasible, and cost Thank you so much for your help. 5% and excluded mixed drinks, IIRC. " This feel counter intuitive to preventing proxy sales and underage drinking. Non Rehire is stamped on your employee file. The clerks said it was state law - even had to go to my car If you have any reason to suspect that the alcohol is for the underaged person, you have every right to refuse the sale. . Michigan law makes it a crime for any person to sell or furnish alcohol to a minor with a $1,000 fine and up to 60 days in jail for a first time conviction. We live in Florida. Later, we received a call from one of his cousin's friends, informing us that the missing guy was in the hospital. For offsale, ID all members of any group that comes in if you suspect the one with ID is buying for someone underage. It's almost as if they can get fired for not following protocol. In This sounds like a perfect setup for cops to nab you for buying alcohol for minors. Furnishing alcohol to minors is illegal because it is often a prelude to an adult sexually abusing or raping minor child. •. Our subreddit is primarily for discussions and memes that an average teenager would enjoy to discuss about. twjjxfphscfhstnnshmg